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RFA CARDIGAN BAY - L3009

Post by Francis GIB » Sun Jan 02, 2011 8:32 am

GIBRALTAR - 301210: On her way home from the Gulf. Made a one day stop at Barcelona, and then had to carry out another stop at a non-Spanish port (Tangier) before calling at Gibraltar. So much for the NATO Alliance and the US assertion that Spain is totally pro-NATO...unfortunately the 300 yr plus Sovereignty issue on Gibraltar always takes priority.....

Once inside the harbour, there appeared to be some indecision as to how to berth the ship. Normally the most common approach is to turn the ship and have it "Bows North". However, on this occasion thae ship stopped in the middle of the harbour and seemed to be manouvering to achieve this. After some five minutes, it just slid sideways (with some assistance from the Tug ROOKE and berthed "Bows South" The Gibraltar Sqn provided one of the patrol craft for the entry into the Bay/Harbour as well as the Gibraltar Defence Police with their PMB SIR REGINALD KERR and two rhibs.

Interesting to see the two Phalanx CIWS midships Port & Starboard...

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Re: RFA CARDIGAN BAY - L3009

Post by Brianh » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:02 pm

The Bays have a bow thruster and podded propulsors so should be able to move sideways. Very messy exhausts at stern - Mounts Bay had been given new vertical exhausts ahead of the gantry. Interesting to see the Phalanx - there is a mounting position forward of the bridge which has not been used.

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Re: RFA CARDIGAN BAY - L3009

Post by Francis GIB » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:00 pm

GIBRALTAR - 110411: The 3rd (and last) arrival in the COUGAR group. She came in at 2000, by which time daylight had practically gone plus the fact that she entered the Bay more or less though the median line (approx 2.0-2.5 miles distance).
Again. not much in the way of detail could be gleaned from afar....Phalanx though, still in place...

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Post by E28 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:48 pm

As you say Francis, she still has the 2 phalanx mounted amidships.
However, it is a non structural, non penetrating mounting, which can have benefits.

Unlike the Albion.
Now Albion and Bulwark, together with the batch 3 type 22's, have the much more capable goalkeeper, which alas is a permanent fitted piece of kit, which bears out its superior abilities.

Frankly, it is what the type 45's should have, instead of their ability to carry phalanx, which incidentally, i do not think any have yet trialled.

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Post by Francis GIB » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:41 pm

Hi Sean - I am no expert in procurement, let alone in technical abilities to produce more advanced / practical weapons. However, it appears to be a very long time from flash to bang to construct, equip and make ready for sea any kind of vessel. I am not sure how long was it that the first steel plate was cut for DARING, but as the ship evolved from the drawing board, surely the weapons fit must also be configured to add or modify in order to have the best all-round weapons afloat. The way I see it is that there seems to be a silent pause between the manufacturer and the MoD Technical people. The result is that a very modern ship will probably be fitted with Pom-Poms by the time she is given the OK by the Navy to go active. In other words, whilst the original drawings cater say for a Phalanx, by the time the ship is ready to receive it, Goalkeeper may have been upgraded and proven to be a superior gun. However, because of the original plans, the ship cannot receive it. Thus, what you comment on is very true: this type of equipment should also be modular with minimum adaptability. I would deem it forward thinking/planning; after all, the Techies must surely be aware of what is coming up in terms of new equipment. Obviously this is not restricted to weapons fit, but also perhaps to communication equipment.

I accept this may be a very simplistic view, but certainly if the ships are to used to their full capacity, all the most up to date equipment must surely be onboard.

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Post by E28 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:47 pm

Hello Francis, good and valid observations.

Certainly with regard to the Phalanx (USA) v Goalkeeper (NL) acquisitions, although the latter is more capable and has to be incorporated into a design due to its inherent complexity and support requirements, our navy came by those it deploys as part of a deal whereby the Dutch purchased some of our gear.

Been like that for many decades.

However, back in the 17th Century, during the Anglo Dutch wars, them Dutchmen would just come over and help themselves, without an invitation even.

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Post by Francis GIB » Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:55 am

HARBOUR - 140411: On South Mole on the day of her departure. Unfortunately this proved to be a day of incoherent ETDs as the departure times were changed not once but three times, two of which with the Pilot on board. As it turned out, we were caught out!!! Perhaps we'll catch her on the way back after the exercises...

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Post by Francis GIB » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:18 pm

GIBRALTAR - 280711: On the way back to UK...due to leave on Monday 1 August...

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Post by E28 » Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:09 pm

Lovely shot ! Francis of her with a phloppy phalanx.
Not often you see these gatling guns at max elevation.
See the Aussies are already kicking off about the Bay they have bought, inadequate air con for down under, and believe it or not, where do you put a phalanx.
Now, where do you put a phalanx on a Bay.
Pretty sure i saw one just a mo ago......now where was it......
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Post by Magoonigal » Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:29 pm

What they complaining about................

They had every opportunity to inspect her before they bought her so its there own fault.

And they got her at a knock down price.
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Re: RFA CARDIGAN BAY - L3009

Post by Francis GIB » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:27 pm

Sean... you missed the trick! They are concerned because the max elevation has to go upside down in Oz.......! Now, where is the best place to fit the "dalek"?????

Paul...I reckon they still have not paid and therefore they are still haggling to knock off a few more Aus$ssssss!!


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Post by Magoonigal » Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:57 pm

That's a terrible thing to say about our Australian Cousins, one would have thought they, of all people, would be above such devious motives!!!
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You have probably hit the nail on the head though....... :lol:
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Post by Daniel GIB » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:06 am

In Gibraltar on the 01/07/16
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Post by Daniel GIB » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:06 am

a few more
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Post by Daniel GIB » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:40 am

In Gibraltar on the 06/06/17 for a bay transfer
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