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Diesel pioneers

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:57 am
by Deepol
Some photos of the pioneering Main Line diesels on Britain's rail system.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:16 pm
by Deepol
In service. They worked on the Southern for a while but were remembered most for double heading the Royal Scot from Euston to Glasgow and return. I saw them at Glasgow Central when expecting an LM Pacific......
10000 was withdrawn quite early in the 60s and dumped at Derby Works. 10001 soldiered on until about 1968 only appearing on the occasional peak train from Euston or on weekend ballast trains. She too was dumped in Derby and cut up. Sadly preservation never took place.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:40 pm
by Deepol
Oliver Bulleid designed a 1Co-Co1 diesel in 1945, the first of which did not appear until 1950 as BR 10201. Two others followed and they worked on the Southern along with 10000/01 for evaluation eventually also transferring to the LM double heading the Royal Scot.
They all were withdrawn in the early 1960s as well being sent to Derby Works where I saw them forlorn in a scrap line. Eventually the torch claimed them as well and preservation if ever considered never happened. They did spawn the English Electric Type 4 however.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:54 pm
by Deepol
BR's own Main Line diesels appeared in 1959, a 1Co-Co1 loco, Sulzer engined built at Derby. The first 10 received names of English and Welsh mountains giving them the nickname of Peaks which stuck, the class eventually reaching 193 locos numbered appropriately from D1.
As classes 44, 45, 46 they lasted well into the 1980s before all were withdrawn. There are quite a number preserved.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:39 am
by Deepol
A first and a last featuring 10000/10001; the first diesel hauled Royal Scot from Euston and the last run for a Polmadie driver.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:21 pm
by Magoonigal
Very interesting, Thanks Paul.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:32 pm
by Deepol
I worked with Mr Webster in the 60s- a character if ever there was one. Wonder if I should trace Mr Spruell and give him a shock........

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:26 pm
by Deepol
An old diagram showing 10000's internals, a pic taken at Willesden when she gained Brunswick Green but retained the white mid body line and a semi official LMS photo of her at Derby in 1947 resplendent in black and silver.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:01 pm
by Deepol
The return of the inaugural diesel hauled Royal Scot from Glasgow Central in June 1949.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:19 pm
by Deepol
Some more on the diesel pioneers.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:47 pm
by Deepol
Gained from a cupboard unwanted, this photo of 10100 the unusual experimental loco.known as the Fell Diesel Locomotive after L.F.R. Fell who was one of the designers.It was a joint production between Davey Paxman & Co, Shell and Fell and was built at Derby being delivered in 1950 though LMS in origin. She had six engines, four for traction and two auxiliaries. She was originally built as a 4-8-4 with the coupling rods connecting the centre four pairs of driving wheels but later modified to 4-4+4-4. At 2000 hp it was the most powerful of BR's locomotives at the time next to Bulleid 10203.
10100 worked mostly between Manchester and Euston and lasted till 1958 withdrawn after a serious gearbox fire at Manchester and was broken up in Derby Works about 1960.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:44 pm
by Deepol
Some more early memories of 10000 from the loft.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:55 pm
by Deepol
Let's not forget the Bulleids.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:45 pm
by Deepol
Sequence from a BR film featured in a tv documentary of 10000/10001 leaving Euston with the Royal Scot.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:36 pm
by Deepol
The BTH Type 1, 44 of which were built by the British Thomson- Houston company in the late 1950s. They were mainly used on local freights or as seen here on Station Pilot duties at Liverpool Street station in London. Some if I remember rightly started off on the LM Region but eventually all ended up on the Great Eastern section of the Eastern Region.
They were reasonably successful and survived long enough to become Class 15 for the TOPS Computer System on BR but all were away by the 1970s. Don't know if any ever carried 15 numbers.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Tue May 10, 2016 12:04 pm
by Deepol
The postcard of 10000 out on the Willesden Breakdown Train in the 1960s which was readily available on bookstalls.
10000-breakdown.jpg

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:20 am
by Deepol
A couple of photos from the collection of the late Jon Gerralde courtesy of Mike Redmayne showing two of the first ten of the BR/ Sulzer Type 4s named after English and Welsh mountains which gave them and the rest of the Class the nickname of Peaks. Some if not all were Carlisle based around 1960. I remember seeing D1 Scafell Pike at what I later knew as Kingmoor in 1960.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:59 am
by Deepol
10203 was 2000hp and was not fitted for multiple working. She was in essence the pioneer English Electric Type 4. This cutting shows her working the Royal Scot on her own in the Lune Gorge.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:07 am
by Deepol
A couple of memories of the Fell Locomotive 10100.

Re: Diesel pioneers

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 2:00 am
by Deepol
It's not too apparent on this shot but 10202 is behind 10201 at Glasgow Central in the late 1950s heading the Royal Scot.