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AMT Trader

Post by zaaf5710 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:30 pm

A couple of pictures here of the barge AMT Trader passing Dumbarton just before 10am this morning heading upriver to Govan in preparation to load the next block of the carrier to transport this round to Rosyth. As far as I am aware the block rolls out of the shed tomorrow and is scheduled to leave on its five day trip to Rosyth at the start of the week.
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Re: AMT Trader

Post by SCameron » Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:56 pm

According to Evening Times (Sat 13th Oct) LB04 roll out onto barge Sunday 14th but barge does not leave Govan until 4th November.

LB04 is the largest subassembly of future HMS Queen Elizabeth - if it could be regarded as a ship in its own right, it would be the fifth largest vessel in the Royal Navy!

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by Allan » Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:56 pm

Bit of tug attention around the yard - Ayton Cross, Anglegarth and Battler sitting there for the last couple of hours. Anyone have any updates as to when the journey starts?
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Re: AMT Trader

Post by Dougster » Fri Oct 19, 2012 11:02 pm

I have been away for a fortnight so no idea when she's off.

High water is 15.30 in Glasgow tomorrow.

I'll make a call in the morning and post if I hear anything.

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Post by dougie-coull » Mon Oct 22, 2012 10:25 pm

Allan wrote:Anyone have any updates as to when the journey starts?
Monday 29th.

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Post by SCameron » Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:11 am

dougie-coull wrote:
Allan wrote:Anyone have any updates as to when the journey starts?
Monday 29th.

I'd heard Nov 3rd but perhaps its been brought forward if the preparations are sufficiently advanced

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Post by dougie-coull » Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:21 am

SCameron wrote:
dougie-coull wrote:
Allan wrote:Anyone have any updates as to when the journey starts?
I'd heard Nov 3rd but perhaps its been brought forward if the preparations are sufficiently advanced
Me too Stuart but I have this on good authority so happy to trust it.

As always, subject to change but in my diary for sure.

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by clydesider » Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:14 pm

Has the 29 October date been confirmed yet? If so, I'll need to rearrange an appointment as I don't wish to miss the move downriver.

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by jockie » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:09 am

I can confirm it is the 29th, leaving at approx. 09:00hrs
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Post by SCameron » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:06 am

No sign of any movements (29 Oct at 10:00). So look like its cancelled?

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Post by SCameron » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:08 am

Anyone know if its gone back to the original date - Nov 3rd?

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Post by mcmahos » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:15 am

NOTICE TO MARINERS 57/12
RIVER CLYDE – BARGE MOVE & RIVER CLOSURE - RESCHEDULED

The move of the barge AMT Trader from BAE’s Govan yard arranged for today, Monday 29th October has been cancelled.
The sailing date will be reviewed today and a new date advised. At this stage it appears the barge will sail later this week, possibly Wednesday but a Notice to Mariners will be issued prior to this. The river closure for today is cancelled.

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by Allan » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:16 pm

No update from Clydeport, so assume Wednesday departure is off.
Noted arrival of VikingTroll (Norway) and Carlo Magno (Italy) currently tied up in KGV dock – couple of heavyweight tugs - will they assist in the transit?
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Post by dougie-coull » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:38 pm

Allan wrote:No update from Clydeport, so assume Wednesday departure is off.
Noted arrival of VikingTroll (Norway) and Carlo Magno (Italy) currently tied up in KGV dock – couple of heavyweight tugs - will they assist in the transit?
Don't think there ever was a Wednesday departure Allan - just rumour.

Carlo Magno is the lead tug with BB Troll as second.

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Post by dougie-coull » Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:37 pm

The money's on Friday at 11:00 - will update when confirmed.

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by clydesider » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:18 pm

Has tomorrow, i.e. Friday 02/11/12, and the sailing time been confirmed yet, anybody?

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by Allan » Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:35 pm

Don't think it's on - Clydeport said they would issue a Notice to Mariners advising details of the event in advance - nothing from them as yet. Since it is a major operation, involving a virtual closure of the river to other traffic, I don't thnk it is going to happen tomorrow.
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Post by dougie-coull » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:53 pm

Sorry folks, can confirm tomorrow is off.

We should know before close of play tomorrow,and looking like Saturday or Sunday.

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Post by dougie-coull » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:20 pm

The Paisley Daily Express has confirmed Sunday.

If I get a time I'll post.

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by Richard D » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:37 pm

Issued this afternoon|


NOTICE TO MARINERS
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RIVER CLYDE – BARGE MOVE

On Sunday 4th November, the loaded large barge AMT TRADER will move from the west basin at BAE’s Govan yard to sea.

The move will commence around 1100 with the barge clear of the basin and in the river by 1130. The barge is expected to be clear of the river, Ocean Terminal Greenock, by 1700 with the barge hand over to the seagoing tug completed around 1800. During the handover at Tail of the Bank a wide berth (500 metres minimum clearance) and slow speed are requested from any passing vessels.

In view of the towage requirements for the barge move there will be very limited towage availability during this period.

Additionally, taking into consideration the dimensions of the barge and the safety of navigation, the river from Greenock Ocean Terminal to Yorkhill Quay will be closed to all traffic (not associated with barge) from 0900 until 1800.

This notice applies to all vessels transiting the River and the Firth.

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Post by SCameron » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:34 am

Too late for me sadly although if it gets as far as Clydebank by 13:45 and the wind is coming from the east as predicted I might see it from above :)
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Re: AMT Trader

Post by Allan » Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:59 pm

Noted position tonight of BB Troll and Carlo Mango at Tail o' the Bank - ready to receive the barge AMT Trader after her transit of the river tomorrow?
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Post by dougie-coull » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:55 pm

Allan wrote:Noted position tonight of BB Troll and Carlo Mango at Tail o' the Bank - ready to receive the barge AMT Trader after her transit of the river tomorrow?
I hear it's all going to plan for tomorrow Allan - a few pics - http://www.dougie-coull-photography.blo ... -move.html - few pics of the tugs.

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by Allan » Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:10 am

Stunning shots Dougie - hope the weather holds for you today. I'm hoping to get to Renfrew to watch them coming out. See tugs Anglegarth, Battler, Ayton Cross and Svitzer Milford all currently on their way upriver.
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On the move.

Post by JunoJupiterSaturn » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:10 pm

Passing Braehead today with tugs Battler, Anglegarth, Svister Mallaig and Ayton Cross assisting :clap:
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Post by riverman » Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:53 pm

Hello from the Tap' o Dumbarton Rock. :lol:
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Post by riverman » Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:55 pm

From Dumbarton Rock. ;)
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off Port Glasgow

Post by Calum McCulloch » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:54 pm

Here she is further down river, from Newark Castle
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Passing Pt Glasgow

Post by Calum McCulloch » Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:57 pm

Passing Newark Castle , then near Tesco
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AMT Trader passing Greenock

Post by Calum McCulloch » Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:02 pm

Passing the Waterfront this evening as the light fades
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Re: AMT Trader

Post by Allan » Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:10 pm

Noted home tugs (Anglegarth, Ayton Cross, Svitzer Milford and Battler) all "back home" - so Carlo Magno towing, with BB Troll following, unattached?
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Post by mcmahos » Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:11 pm

Here's a (carp) photo of the tow passing Brodick a few minutes ago - taken from Ardrossan. Rear tug is certainly some distance behind.
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Post by dougie-coull » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:04 am

Started to build my gallery so - http://www.dougie-coull-photography.co. ... er-Builds/ - for anyone who wishes to view.

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by algil » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:10 am

Can anyone explain please why Svitzer Milford and Anglegarth (lead tugs) were towing astern? Whilst realising they have 360deg vision and probably azimuth thrusters or the like,I thought these vessels were designed to tow with the towed vessel astern for a tow of this distance (Govan to To'tB).
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Re: AMT Trader

Post by alasdairmac » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:42 am

Alan, this was explained by one of our tuggy members when the last tow went downriver with the lead tugs going astern. I can't remember the details of his explanation other than it was all to do with maneuverability but no doub't he'll gladly spell it out again for us.

I think the BB Toll is acting as a safety vessel and is not taking any active part in the tow, hence its distance astern. I see from AIS that, as predicted by the barge master yesterday, the weather has forced them to take the longer 9-day route down the Irish Sea and round Lands End (as of now they are abeam the IoM).

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by algil » Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:41 pm

Thanks Alasdair,

I must have missed the answer last time, apologies for that. I look forward to a reply from one who knows.
I would have thought taking a tow like that through the English Channel would be almost as hairy as the weather round the north!

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by algil » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:33 pm

My apologies, I have scanned back to last year's move of the barge on this site and found the very detailed and interesting explanation to my question by Jamie, alias "Riverclyde_tug". :oops:

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by alasdairmac » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:45 pm

Appears to have been makng good progress and is now abeam the Thames Estuary. Looking maybe like Monday or Tuesday at Rosyth.

correction: could make it as early as Sunday.

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by alasdairmac » Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:56 am

Now in the charge of Forth tugs and about to go under the bridges. Carlo Magno heading back out to sea. According to a Forth Ports Notice to Mariners, float-off is planned for this coming Friday but close in to the harbour wall at Rosyth and not in mid-stream as the last Govan section was. Probably means not such good photo opportunities.

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Re: AMT Trader

Post by alasdairmac » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:11 pm

BAe Govan's last module for the QE is now safely in the building dock at Rosyth. AMT Trader appears to have gone already.

Sorry for the relatively poor quality but I am afraid that it's a bit of a long shot - almost 3 miles from the layby off the A904 east of the village of Newton but the best elevated position I could get.
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Post by yorkieman » Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:48 pm

You could earn a living chasing the Royals on holidays, Alasdair!
Good view and she is starting to look ship-shape, hope all those bits are in the right order.
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Re: AMT Trader

Post by alasdairmac » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:56 am

"Now, does four fit on top of three and does five go to the back or the front? Which end is the front anyway?" If you look closely you can just make out the wee fellow with the clipboard on the dock side scratching his head and that's why they've left the dock gate open.

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