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PS WAVERLEY 2018

Post by alasdairmac » Mon Aug 27, 2018 5:41 pm

She’s now abeam Dunoon having left CHQ at 17:00. She’ll need to keep up a good average speed to get to Liverpool in time for tomorrow’s cruise (which I believe is a sell-out). That is if that’s where she’s headed - her AIS is showing destination Largs !


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Ps. The plot thickens. 18:50 and it looks like she made a close pass by Largs Pier without stopping but AIS is now showing destination Greenock with an eta of 12:00 local tomorrow ! I guess that someone just couldn’t spell Liverpool but if that eta is true then that’s tomorrow’s sail in jeopardy

PPS. got the old slide rule out and given a fair wind and at 14 kts she should make the ‘pool by 08:00.

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Re: PS WAVERLEY 2018

Post by Russardo » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:14 pm

Looks like she's heading for Llandudno and missing Liverpool, with a coach connection instead. I guess the later timetabled arrival at Llandudno means she can be there ”on time".

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Post by Allan » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:37 pm

Yes Russardo, I think you're right.

She is currently around 6 miles west of Cairnryan making 14.6 knots. Her destination is now showing as Llandudno (but drill down and it shows Greenock!). My ETA for her is around 0600hrs BST.
Waverley Excursions’ website has been updated – my interpretation (although I don't think it's totally clear) is that she will begin and end the cruise at Llandudno, with a bus laid on for the Liverpool/Llandudno section of the original scheduled sailing.
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Post by Russardo » Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:15 am

Allan wrote:Yes Russardo, I think you're right.

She is currently around 6 miles west of Cairnryan making 14.6 knots. Her destination is now showing as Llandudno (but drill down and it shows Greenock!). My ETA for her is around 0600hrs BST.
Waverley Excursions’ website has been updated – my interpretation (although I don't think it's totally clear) is that she will begin and end the cruise at Llandudno, with a bus laid on for the Liverpool/Llandudno section of the original scheduled sailing.
I think she'll sail back to Liverpool at the end of the day and the coaches are to get the Liverpool passengers to Llandudno. We'll see later today!

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Post by Allan » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:57 pm

That makes sense Russardo - tomorrow's sailing is scheduled to start from Liverpool, so makes sense to return there tonight.

At last, PS WAVERLEY is on the move (1340hrs BST), out of Llandudno - scheduled time for departure was forty minutes ago.

Noticed that her journey south was somewhat slower than usual - once she pass the Mull of Galloway her speed reduced from 14+ knots to around 12 knots, then from the Isle of Man to Llandudno she rarely exceeded 10 knots. I’ll be optimistic and think she wasn’t in a hurry, as opposed to thinking she was nursing the boiler…..
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Post by Allan » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:50 pm

A rather curtailed cruise this afternoon – scheduled departure/return times from/to Llandudno were 1300hrs and 1700hrs – a four-hour sailing.

Actual times were shortly after 1330hrs, and shortly after 1600hrs – actual sailing time of 2.5 hours.
Straight-line distance sailed west of Llandudno was around 10 miles, before turning and heading back – distance is about the same as KGV Dock on the Clyde to Port Glasgow.

Speed achieved of 13/14 knots gives no indication of mechanical problems.
Paying visitors could not have been happy, and it was reported as “fully booked”.

She lay moored at Llandudno until 1700hrs at which time she left for Liverpool – currently on final approach.
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Post by Clydebuilt1971 » Wed Aug 29, 2018 8:38 am

Havent heard any more on her issues except it was boiler control issues.

If this is the case its strange that it affected both boilers as the redundant setup she had fitted during the rebuild was to avoid situations such as this. Both boiler control systems are dedicated to a single boiler - the only part I can remember being common is the mode controller.

Also - I guess the lack of consistent engineering staff is an issue - these controls are now 18yrs old and like any other system will have their little "habits" which no doubt the engineering crew of a few years back knew about and what to do when they came about!!
When fitted I was told the were deliberately simplified (ie no solid state controllers - more reliance on relays etc etc) to make it easier to rectify any issues "On the Go"

Glad to see shes in rude health again and has made it south to take up her timetabled sailings.

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Post by Allan » Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:57 pm

Second and final day on the Liverpool/Anglesey Coast route.

Perhaps becoming a bit paranoid about this, but:
Today (all times BST), arrived Llandudno 1330hrs, departed therefrom 1415hrs, arrived back 1615hrs – cruise period 2 hours.
Scheduled cruise, 1300hrs >1630hrs – 3.5hours, so actual was 90 minutes less?
This cruise extended to less than 7 miles along the Anglesey coast -equivalent to sailing from Greenock to Inverkip via Dunoon.
Lay at Llandudno from 1615hrs to 1720hrs, sailed to Liverpool arriving 2038hrs – at the end of the day, 8 minutes behind schedule.

Appears a lot of time ‘moored’, as opposed to ‘sailing’ ?
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Post by Russardo » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:09 pm

Allan wrote:Second and final day on the Liverpool/Anglesey Coast route.

Perhaps becoming a bit paranoid about this, but:
Today (all times BST), arrived Llandudno 1330hrs, departed therefrom 1415hrs, arrived back 1615hrs – cruise period 2 hours.
Scheduled cruise, 1300hrs >1630hrs – 3.5hours, so actual was 90 minutes less?
This cruise extended to less than 7 miles along the Anglesey coast -equivalent to sailing from Greenock to Inverkip via Dunoon.
Lay at Llandudno from 1615hrs to 1720hrs, sailed to Liverpool arriving 2038hrs – at the end of the day, 8 minutes behind schedule.

Appears a lot of time ‘moored’, as opposed to ‘sailing’ ?
Yes her sailing time has been curtailed quite a bit. Tomorrow the sail starts from Swansea rather than the advertised porthcawl, coaches once again providing the connection. Maybe a sensible move given the saved journey by sea, but once again quite late in the day to be advising passengers (well at least the website update is late, maybe booked passengers have been contacted)

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Re: PS WAVERLEY 2018

Post by riverman » Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:27 am

Porthcawl looks a rather unusual harbour to be starting and ending a sailing, I can't see any area where she can come alongside unless she anchors off, could be wrong of course, why not start and end in Swansea city in the first place. Zooming in on google maps Porthcawl looks to dry out at LW with an inner marina protected by lock gates.
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Post by riverman » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:37 am

Porthcawl webcam shows substantial concrete pier, but still wonder why Porthcawl. :o
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Post by Allan » Fri Aug 31, 2018 8:38 pm

Well done WAVERLEY – today’s excursions materialised as per time-table – helps to relieve
my paranoia …….
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Post by Allan » Sun Sep 02, 2018 10:25 pm

Pleased to report the last two days (Saturday/Sunday) sailings all completed within tolerable margins.

PS WAVERLEY continues her excursions in the Bristol Channel until Tuesday, at which time she sails for Swanage to begin her scheduled sailings on the South Coast.
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Post by alasdairmac » Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:12 pm

After overnighting at Ilfracombe, Waverley is now rounding Landsend on passage to Weymouth


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Post by riverman » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:45 am

Couple of rough shots from Weymouth webcam at 0900hrs this morning of Waverley departing stern first on her sail to Swanage, Yarmouth and sail round the I.O.W. Weather seems to be doing well and should be getting good crowds. Tomorrow Southampton. :)
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Post by Allan » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:50 pm

Looks like a good day today, sailings appear to be more or less to schedule.

Unfortunately Sunday (9th September) sailings have been cancelled due to “wind and sea conditions”.

This sailing was “fully booked”, so not a good result for Waverley Excursions.
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Post by alasdairmac » Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:02 pm

Met Office shipping forecast issued at 10:30 this morning doesn't look too bad, viz:
Wind West or southwest 4 or 5, Sea state Slight or moderate. Weather Fair. Visibility Good. Not the best for a trip, but looks like Waverley is erring very much on the side of caution.

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Post by alasdairmac » Tue Sep 11, 2018 2:10 pm

Today's sailing's also been lost to weather. Not good for the Auld Lady's bank account.

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Post by Allan » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:15 pm

Tuesday’s sailing, which was fully booked, has been cancelled due to wind and sea conditions, and I believe Sunday’s (17th) cruise was also cancelled – leaves just Wednesday and Thursday to maximise income from the South Coast, before she moves round to the Thames area where she will remain until 7th October.
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Post by Allan » Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:12 am

Wednesday's sailing now cancelled, due to adverse sea and wind conditions forecasted..........
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Post by Allan » Thu Sep 20, 2018 5:22 pm

No sailings today, and website advising that sailings for Friday and Saturday (both fully booked) are cancelled, “as weather will not allow the ship to reposition to the Thames”.

In total, from 16th to 24th September inclusive, she hasn’t been/will not be active.

Let’s hope she can get round to the Thames safely and soon.
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Post by Allan » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:00 pm

PS WAVERLEY still berthed at Southampton.

For Sunday 23rd September, the website advises that “The Captain is monitoring the weather forecast for this day and an update will be available on Saturday morning. All passengers who have booked will be updated by email or text”.

The general weather forecasts I’ve seen do not bode well for a re-positioning to the Thames tomorrow.
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Post by alasdairmac » Sat Sep 22, 2018 3:32 pm

Waverley website now advising Sunday’s sailing is cancelled. They are advertising that tickets are still available for Tuesday from Gravesend. I think that this is now possibly the worst English Channel visit I can remember. Fingers crossed for the Thames sailings - some good revenue days there will be very much needed.


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Post by Allan » Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:32 pm

PS WAVERLEY still moored at Southampton, although Marine Traffic showing her destination as Gravesend, ETA 2130hrs tomorrow 24th September (has been showing that since at least 1600hrs BST today…).

This situation is not time-critical – she will obviously overnight at Gravesend before setting off on her Tuesday sailings.

As a point of interest – if she departs Southampton at 2030hrs BST tonight (like, now), she will need to average 14.5 knots in order to arrive at Gravesend at 2130hrs BST tomorrow – every half-hour delay beyond that time means an extra 0.70 knots on her average speed – so, one hour later means an average of 16 knots, ninety minutes later means an average of 16.5 knots……

The clock is ticking…… :ugeek:
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Post by Allan » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:00 am

:oops: Many apologies folks - please ignore my post from last night (above) - the calculations appear to be based on there being 12 hours in a day, not the actual 24……… :oops: :oops:

PS WAVERLEY departed Southampton 0730hrs this morning, due at Gravesend 2130hrs tonight - means she needs to maintain an average speed of 13.5 knots.
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Post by Allan » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:17 pm

Nearing the end of her stint on the Thames – took some pics of her passing under Tower Bridge (via computer monitor) tonight, but they didn’t come out good enough – this is one of her from yesterday (same method), heading down-river.
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Post by Allan » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:12 pm

PS WAVERLEY – Having completed her Thames Excursions, now heading home – currently berthed at Gravesend, scheduled to arrive at Weymouth tomorrow 8th October 1800hrs.
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Post by Allan » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:48 pm

PS WAVERLEY, setting off on her journey back to the Clyde, departed Gravesend at 0024hrs this morning, safely arrived at Weymouth this afternoon at 1556hrs – a distance of around 200 nautical miles, two hours ahead of schedule.

Indeed, I saw MT reporting her speed off the Isle of Wight as being in excess of 16 knots – not bad, with a 10 knot headwind at the time……

I’ve said it in previous years, but I still think the old girl is anxious to get home…….
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Post by Allan » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:56 pm

The Waverley website has now advised that this week-end's sailings, the last of the season, have been cancelled - they say weather conditions will not allow the ship to get back up to the Clyde in time.

Suppose it's not surprising, given the current and forecasted weather - sad though that she wont be able to end the season on a happy note......
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Post by Russardo » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:10 pm

Allan wrote:The Waverley website has now advised that this week-end's sailings, the last of the season, have been cancelled - they say weather conditions will not allow the ship to get back up to the Clyde in time.

Suppose it's not surprising, given the current and forecasted weather - sad though that she wont be able to end the season on a happy note......
Yeah that is a shame. Saturday wasn't looking good weather wise but Sunday was looking ok. So it's now official, the first year in many that I won't be going for a sail on her :-(

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Post by riverman » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:45 am

Helensburgh Pier is also under review at the moment whither it is deemed safe for future visits by the Waverley due to the pier's present condition, what with that and the Maid being turned down by the HLF it's not looking too bright at the moment. :(
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Post by Allan » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:58 pm

A wee update - PS WAVEREY departed Weymouth 1124hrs 11th October, arrived Southampton 1622hrs 11th October.

Don’t know if it was a case of requiring better shelter, or “berth required” at Weymouth…..

In any event, she’s still a long way from home……
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Post by clydesider » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:56 pm

I flew into Southampton this morning and we passed over the Ocean Cruise Terminal where the positively tiny Waverley was berthed adjacent to the massive Queen Mary 2.
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Post by alasdairmac » Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:13 pm

I notice that she’s still there. Given that the weather looks to have been good enough for her return voyage for some days now, does anyone have any idea why she’s still in Southampton?


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Post by seapigeon » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:24 pm

Waverley on her way home, just left Southampton ETA Glasgow 18:00 on Saturday according to AIS.


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Post by Allan » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:10 pm

Thanks for the heads-up seapigeon – pleased to see her on her way home at last.

Currently making just over 14 knots - she has a favourable tailwind in the Channel of 7-10 knots -
reckon she’ll “turn the corner” around 0630hrs BST tomorrow.
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Post by Allan » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:26 pm

PS WAVERLEY making good progress up the Irish Sea – currently making 14.4 knots, ably assisted by a south-westerly 10/11 knot wind, reckon she’ll cross the Dublin/Holyhead line around 2215hrs BST tonight.
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Post by Russardo » Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:28 am

At some point destination was changed to Campbeltown for 1000, but looks like she's skipping it now. Only making 9kts up the Kilbrannan Sound at the moment

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Re: PS WAVERLEY 2018

Post by Russardo » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:11 am

Spoke too soon, she's in Campbeltown
Russardo wrote:At some point destination was changed to Campbeltown for 1000, but looks like she's skipping it now. Only making 9kts up the Kilbrannan Sound at the moment

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Post by riverman » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:57 pm

:) The Waverley returneth passing Greenock heading home late this afternoon.
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Post by alasdairmac » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:10 pm

Looks like she turned back to Campbeltown when she was a few miles up the Kilbrannan Sound. Low on fuel perhaps ? She had made the trip non-stop from Southampton so would be near her limit.


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