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Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:11 pm
by davidships
Some workhorses from the Humber seeing out their days in southern climes on 8/8/2010.

ECCLESJOHN ex-HUNT'S JOHN
built 1936 Harker
In Greenland Dock.
Ecclesjohn - 1x.JPG
Ecclesjohn - 2x.JPG

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:13 pm
by davidships
ELSPETH MABEL
built 1950 Dunston
in Blackwall Basin
Elspeth Mabel - 1x.JPG
Elspeth Mabel - 2x.JPG

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:17 pm
by davidships
Unnamed barge, apparently from Flixborough Shipping.
In Blackwall Basin.
Identity?
Flixborough - 1x.JPG
Flixborough - 2x.JPG

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:23 pm
by davidships
FORWARD
built 1954 Harker
in Blackwall Basin.
Forward - 1x.JPG
Forward - 2x.JPG

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:27 pm
by Magoonigal
Elspeth Mabel looks quite smart, I could settle for her!

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:05 am
by davidships
Here's a classier one, Paul, and seaworthy so you could sail north in the summer.

GAINSBOROUGH TRADER ex-MFH ex-GAINSBOROUGH TRADER
built 1931 [Dunston?]
A Dunkirk Little Ship in Greenland Dock
http://www.adls.org.uk/t1/content/gains ... -foxhounds
http://intheboatshed.net/tag/gainsborough-trader/
Gainsborough Trader - 4x.JPG
Gainsborough Trader - 5x.JPG
A snip at £330k! [corrected]
http://tinyurl.com/3x89nny
http://tinyurl.com/3645v5d (pdf can be slow loading)

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:16 am
by davidships
JUNO I
Not in such good nick
Looks like a Humber barge
In Greenland Dock.
Juno I - 1x.JPG
Juno I - 2x.JPG

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:26 am
by Magoonigal
That was £330,000 David plus £6,000 a year mooring fee...........

Anyway, way to much wood for my liking!!

:) :)

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:35 am
by davidships
Difficult to picture:
SELBY ELLEN
built 1952 Dunston
at Hermitage Moorings, Wapping.
http://www.hcmoorings.org/vessels-at-hcm/selby-ellen/
http://www.humber-barges.co.uk/history.html (last photo)
Selby Ellen - x.JPG

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:59 am
by davidships
SHIRECLIFFE
in Blackwall Basin
but cannot find any details
http://www.yachtgrandprix.com/boats-for ... boat-barge
Shirecliffe - 1x.JPG
Shirecliffe - 3x.JPG

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:09 am
by davidships
Lastly, another I have no details of:
WHITAKERS No.5
in Greenland dock
Whitakers No.5 - 1x.JPG
Whitakers No.5 - 2x.JPG

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:29 am
by Magoonigal
Timothy Spall, the Actor, had a seagoing barge built for him, but he was not that keen to take it to sea!!

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:44 am
by yorkieman
Great collection to wake up to, David, these ex Humber barges have proved very popular as live-aboard conversions on the Thames.
From my records ...
HUNT'S JOHN 1936 Harker (35)
ELSPETH MABEL 1952 Dunston Thorne (813)
FORWARD 1954 Harker (262)
GAINSBOROUGH TRADER 1931 Dunston Thorne (186)
SELBY ELLEN 1954 Dunston Thorne (899)
WHITAKER'S No.5 have no details but No.8 was from Thorne in 1920
SHIRECLIFFE 1922 Dunston Thorne (116) one of a series with Cliffe names, sister SOUTHCLIFFE is a conversion to sail and at Goole, LIGHTCLIFFE was towed to Thames last year.

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:45 pm
by davidships
One of the things that makes them attractive as houseboats is their beam. They are wider than the equivalent-length Dutch barges and make a more agreeable living space.

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:02 pm
by starr5
Thanks for these Pics David I Knew all but Gainsborough Trader I never came across this one from from me going on the barges in 1960 onwards. the ones ending in Cliffe where the sheffield fleet of BW until its demise and Waddington bought most , now they are turning up converted around the country

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:40 pm
by NHB-LT
davidships wrote:Unnamed barge, apparently from Flixborough Shipping.
In Blackwall Basin.
Identity?
Flixborough - 1x.JPG
Flixborough - 2x.JPG

Hello David---the un-named barge is ex-Flixborough Shipping "EDWIN PITTWOOD", shortened at Lincoln & Hull dock in Hull to become the houseboat conversion you see. I spotted it from the docklands light rail and recognised it straight away.
Built harkers 322, 1965, 125ftx17ft6in,

Les Reid, Newark Heritage Barge.

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:51 pm
by NHB-LT
davidships wrote:JUNO I
Not in such good nick
Looks like a Humber barge
In Greenland Dock.
Juno I - 1x.JPG
Juno I - 2x.JPG

Juno 1 was a Lincoln size keel (74ft 6in) owned by Joe Smith of Lincoln and finally by W.H.Barraclough

Les Reid

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:56 pm
by yorkieman
Good to see you here, Les!
WILBERFORCE1920.jpg
As you have reminded me, WHITAKER No.5 appeared in this fine view from the old St. Andrew's Dock Extension at Hull, here is my caption for the tug WILBERFORCE

A fine period view of her in the St. Andrews Dock (Fish Dock), Hull, probably early 1960's
Other Whitaker craft surround her, WHITAKER No.5 and YORKIST can be seen.
Possibly JONDOR on the outside left? They used to collect the cod liver oil from the trawlers.
1920, 45grt
Yorkshire Dry Dock, Hull (11)
Broken up later than 30/6/1964 when I saw her at Hull

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:00 pm
by Magoonigal
Now I like that picture George...........

Lots of interest in that one.

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:01 am
by yorkieman
Only the smell is missing Paul, they are outside the fishmeal factory which stank like **** and on a south-west wind spread its influence across the city centre! One bit of the Fish Docks that is not missed.

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:56 am
by Angus Mac Kinnon
Fantastic collection of interesting postings and photographs - thanks to all contributors, most interesting. :D

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:32 am
by Magoonigal
OPPS thought I had posted this in wronng thread but I had'nt so here it is again.... :lol:

Yes George I do remember the SMELL!!

My Mum's best friend lived in James Reckett Avenue and I used to go down for the odd week during the school holidays. One extra mouth in a family of four kids did not make much difference.
I used to poke my nose into the docks, where you could and remember the bows of the Trawlers overhanging some of the walls.

They used to come up to Whitley Bay for the rest of the Holidays to escape!!

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:12 am
by yorkieman
The trawler bows you remember were probably in Prince's Dock right next to the main square in the city centre, opposite the Dock Offices (now Maritime Museum), those from Beverley were fitted out there (Cook, Welton & Gemmell, later C. D. Holmes). That was also my first ever sight of ships at Hull after arriving by train on 30 June 1964.
Help how do I get out of here? :D

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:16 pm
by NHB-LT
yorkieman wrote:Only the smell is missing Paul, they are outside the fishmeal factory which stank like **** and on a south-west wind spread its influence across the city centre! One bit of the Fish Docks that is not missed.
I feel let down by the lookers---was waiting for someone to shout about the tanker bunkering the trawler in the background.
Its Humber Queen, with name hurredley painted over Esso Saltend when Whitakers took them over.

Les NHBarge

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:44 pm
by Magoonigal
Ahh but that's the benefit of having other people view the Picture Les.

George Posted it to show the WHITAKER No 5.

I tuned in to the Tug WILBERFORCE.

I don't think either of us would have identified the Tank Barge in the background. (Not being 'Local')

Thanks for your input, it all adds to the interest in the picture........

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:39 pm
by lightcliffe
Hi all have just joined your forum as was interested to see you have a couple of threads mentioning a barge called Lightcliffe my partner owns Lightcliffe which we are in the process of converting to live on we are about three quarters of the way through if anyone has any info or old pics of her would be greatly received :D

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:33 am
by yorkieman
A hearty welcome to our 'ship' and by coincidence I was just looking at your progress on Malc. Slater's site, the link for others is
http://www.esk-dredging.co.uk/Convertin ... cliffe.htm

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:30 pm
by lightcliffe
thanks for the welcome malcolm slater very kindly offered us a page on his web site although the website you provided is his old site he has started up a new one it is http://thebargee.fotopic.net have not updated the latest pics yet will be doing so in the next couple of days

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:32 am
by davidships
Any news on LIGHTCLIFFE? The photo link no longer functions, it seems.

GAINSBOROUGH TRADER is now up at Brentford being docked by MSO Marine Construction (Oliver's Boatyard Ltd)
Gainsborough Trader - 1.JPG
I wonder whether the one in the background, with no name, also at Brentford is ex-Humber vessel?
at Brentford - 3.JPG

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:49 am
by davidships
Anyone know anything about the rather odd ANN of Goole, seen at Brentford, alongside the former coaster CECIL GILDERS. Photos taken 19/4/2009, but seen again 8/4/2011 little changed (except without the tame heron).

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:41 pm
by Patrick Hill
davidships wrote:Any news on LIGHTCLIFFE? The photo link no longer functions, it seems.

Hi David - fotopic went into liquidation earlier this year - all sites hosted are now no longer available. There was a rumour that they might re-appear but it looks doubtful now.

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:55 pm
by davidships
The boatyard have just emailed me to confirm the name of the unnamed Humber barge at Brentwood three messages ago - she is AGENDA
66grt
built 1966 at Gainsborough

Another photo from 8/4/2011 attached
Also at the same boatyard (slightly different position) six years ago at
http://www.debinnenvaart.nl/binnenvaart ... mg000.html

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:59 am
by alanships
Gentlemen .....
STAINCLIFFE was photographed recently by Colin Drayson near Northam, Southampton. I presume this is another Humber fleet member? Any details would be appreciated. If I ever work out how to do it - I will attach photos!
Alan

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 2:49 pm
by starr5
Staincliffe was one of British Waterways Sheffield fleet and skippered by Ernie (kitty) Cattle for a number of years in my early Youth. Ernie was later made Foreman on Hull Docks by BW and Staincliffe joined the rest of the fleet under the Hammer

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:55 pm
by terry.thwaite
Hello David, Ann was Hargreaves and was converted to pusher along with Susan, Katherine and Elsie May and fitted with T6 Kelvins. Looks like shes had some sort of doubling round her head to make her a bit finer but it looks to be very lightly built. Hargreaves flatened some of the other motor boats and took the listers out for these four to run with to Ferrybridge "B" Station, they towed them tight up light and shoved them loaded. Terry

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 10:43 pm
by davidships
Thanks, Terry.

Re: Humber Craft Down South

Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 9:14 pm
by terry.thwaite