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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by riverman » Thu May 19, 2011 6:28 pm

Remember that film, 'THE FLIGHT OF THE PHEONIX' ? :lol:
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Deepol » Mon May 23, 2011 6:05 am

Any word of it back on stream yet- not too sure about trying it. IT friend tells me lucky our own systems were not infected when Clydesite opened........ :evil:
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by yorkieman » Mon May 23, 2011 7:42 am

Paul, it has been back for a few days, are you unable to open it? ... also heard from David Nixon (Sandman) that he could not get into it.
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by alasdairmac » Mon May 23, 2011 8:50 am

you can no longer access Foghorn via the link in the Clydebuilt database. You need to type its own direct URL, www.clydesite.co.uk/foghorn

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Deepol » Mon May 23, 2011 10:14 am

Thanks, will do it that way.
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by dougie-coull » Wed May 25, 2011 8:41 am

Seems down again this morning :roll:
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by alasdairmac » Wed May 25, 2011 9:32 am

It's OK now

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by dougie-coull » Wed May 25, 2011 9:54 am

Yeah, came back up - thanks.
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Bill Harvey » Wed May 25, 2011 11:14 am

Maybe BB was tweeking things before going to bed after his nightshift; that is if he is still on nights.

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Deepol » Wed May 25, 2011 12:29 pm

It's off just now if anyone thinks of trying.
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by starr5 » Wed May 25, 2011 12:31 pm

Just had a look in and viewing site okay Clicked on Alans message and next thing was dumped out service not available
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Clydesite - is it down again ?

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Sat May 28, 2011 4:17 pm

Tried logging in a couple of times today, without success. Anyone know if there's a problem again ? :(
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Patrick Hill » Sat May 28, 2011 4:27 pm

As Bruce hasn't advised that he has been able to fix all the issues yet, maybe we should bear that in mind that he is possibly still working on it and that these interruptions can be expected...

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Sat May 28, 2011 4:32 pm

The Site was working okay yesterday, and day before, and the day before that, so was unaware that there were any 'issues' still ongoing ....
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Post by mcmahos » Sat May 28, 2011 4:50 pm

I'd echo Patrick's comments. From what Bruce has explained so far, the changes he requires to make are quite substantial and will not just happen overnight. Given Bruce's employment now, any spare time to work on the site will be limited and outages will be a necessity whilst he rewrites code 'behind the scenes'. Frustrating that it is, I'd ask folk to have patience for a while.
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Henk » Sat May 28, 2011 5:01 pm

I wonder ......... Maybe somebody can do a salvage

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Sat May 28, 2011 5:07 pm

mcmahos wrote:I'd echo Patrick's comments. From what Bruce has explained so far, the changes he requires to make are quite substantial and will not just happen overnight. Given Bruce's employment now, any spare time to work on the site will be limited and outages will be a necessity whilst he rewrites code 'behind the scenes'. Frustrating that it is, I'd ask folk to have patience for a while.

Fair enough - but it would be good if he could post a notification of planned or possible disruptions to services, then folk know. You know, the way you did on ClydeMaritime when enforced outages were necessary?
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by From the North » Sat May 28, 2011 11:21 pm

Working fine now.

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Patrick Hill » Sun May 29, 2011 10:32 am

Angus Mac Kinnon wrote:
Fair enough - but it would be good if he could post a notification of planned or possible disruptions to services, then folk know. You know, the way you did on ClydeMaritime when enforced outages were necessary?

And how can you see these notification posts when the site is down? ;)

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by dougie-coull » Sun May 29, 2011 10:50 am

Patrick Hill wrote: And how can you see these notification posts when the site is down? ;)
Think you just put up a 'holding page' with a standard message advising the site will be available when maintenance is complete ;)

Standard procedure for most sites.
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Sun May 29, 2011 11:51 am

Correct - as has been done in the past.
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by tomlangbank » Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:01 pm

Seems major problems have returned. Page saying site not available being displayed today.

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:26 pm

Appears okay to me, Tom, in fact I posted a series of photos just a short while ago, and have tried again just now and all boards okay - are you logged on okay? (Sorry - just incase ... !)
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by tomlangbank » Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:15 pm

Thanks Angus and apologies to all. Logging in again restored access but did not allow me to post pictures.

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by tomlangbank » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:13 pm

Trying to log in to Foghorn Clydesite results only in the following page being displayed - quote

Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80004005'

System resource exceeded.

/foghorn/4checklogin.asp, line 14

Unquote

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:33 pm

Yes, Tom, all very frustraing for regular users/posters/readers of Clydesite. I will say no more than that as every time the subject comes up and I make any critical comment, sometimes even non-critical comment, it upsets a number of folk so I shall desist or, as they say in Govan - 'Ah'll jist haud ma wheesht' !

Anyway, at least you have conquered ClydeMaritime big style with all your images, including today's M.V. Aasvik making her way out to sea. But what's with this 'rain' stuff up there in the Inverclyde and Renfrewshire regions ? The tar is fair melting down here in Troon ...... abolutely tropical, it is .... even 'absolutely' !
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by tomlangbank » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:59 pm

Thanks for the reply and the kind comments Angus, its good to know I'm not alone.
What is so galling about the Clydesite situation is to see dozens of pictures being posted, apparently effortlessly, but when I try to put in a wee singleton it tells me to go and chase myself! The ghost in the machine doesn't seem to like me.
As for the rain; with the wind in the east we strain it out up here so you can enjoy at least the occasional pleasant afternoon in Troon.
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by tomlangbank » Tue Jun 07, 2011 3:58 pm

Site came live again just after three, let me post a picture and seems to be running faster!

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by tomlangbank » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:59 am

Tried to post again yesterday and today - same results as before, message saying not enough memory. Very frustrating!

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Doxford Diesel » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:36 pm

tomlangbank wrote: Very frustrating!
Flogging a dead horse usually is!

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by tomlangbank » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:18 pm

Site down again today - dead horse seems all too right!

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by E28 » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:16 pm

I do not contribute to or belong to either, but TT seems in very rude health from my observations, as many on this very forum will bear out.
In fact, it seems to be the standard if you talk tugs.
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by davidships » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:23 pm

Touch and go, I should think for the main site.

For TT it seems a bit more hairy.
Has been inaccessible for many for several days
But for those subscribed a work-round (which works at least for the moment) is at http://www.clydesite.co.uk/foghorn/read ... age=168950

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Bill Harvey » Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:05 pm

E28 wrote:I do not contribute to or belong to either, but TT seems in very rude health from my observations, as many on this very forum will bear out.
In fact, it seems to be the standard if you talk tugs.
Sean,

Would you care to qualify the last part of your post.

What exactly do you mean by "seems to be the standard if you talk tugs?"

A strange statement especially when you say that you "do not belong nor subscribe to either"

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by tomlangbank » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:03 pm

This is what I get when I try to log in to Foghorn-

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Microsoft JET Database Engine error '80004005'

System resource exceeded.

/foghorn/viewtoday2c.asp, line 33

Unquote.

Perhaps it means the server is under-resourced. Past caring now but it does seem a pity.

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Bill Harvey » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:11 pm

Tom,

That is a common message at least once a day on alll 3 boards.

The first two words of your last sentence about sums it up in regard to the site owner. By all accounts abandoned ship some time ago.

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Andy » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:13 pm

Seems such a great pity. Such an informative and lively website until recently when it all went downhill. It has been my homepage for the last 5 or 6 years. No more.

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Flyers » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:24 pm

All I can say is RIP TT.

What a great site it was and so many friends made on there, however from now on this will be my point of contact for discussing tugs.
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by gerrydee » Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:26 pm

Patrick Hill wrote:Both working but Bruce has advised he is working on the issues in the background so I would suspect downtime can be expected until all issues resolved.
Foghorn shows a 09-10-2011 post by VIC but I don't see any post on this subject since this post by PATRICK HILL
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by riverclyde_tug » Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:33 pm

Bill Harvey wrote:
E28 wrote:I do not contribute to or belong to either, but TT seems in very rude health from my observations, as many on this very forum will bear out.
In fact, it seems to be the standard if you talk tugs.
Sean,

Would you care to qualify the last part of your post.

What exactly do you mean by "seems to be the standard if you talk tugs?"

A strange statement especially when you say that you "do not belong nor subscribe to either"

Bill
Hi Bill I would take no notice of E28. Unless it's grey he has nothing even remotely interesting to contribute, but still feels the need to post something from his equally dull sense of humour.

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by davy k » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:11 pm

Flyers wrote:All I can say is RIP TT.

What a great site it was and so many friends made on there, however from now on this will be my point of contact for discussing tugs.
Hi George,
it,s a crying shame what,s happening to TT.A great community and a fantastic archive look set to disappear . I have sent Bruce messages on facebook but he does,nt reply to them .If the worse does happen I hope most members can migrate to this or another site
cheers Dave

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by alasdairmac » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:24 pm

Fortunately the Clydebuilt database is still OK.

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Bill Harvey » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:51 pm

alasdairmac wrote:Fortunately the Clydebuilt database is still OK.

At present Alisdair, but what happens at year end when BB has to alter the site scripts to suit the new year?

Will he bother, based on his current performance?

Only time will tell.

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by alasdairmac » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:01 pm

Hi Bill. It's likely that BB will eventually surface as he has done so many times before but Clydebuilt's authors and contributors over the years should surely be looking to get an up-to-date copy from Bruce just in case. He had offered it in the past but as far as I know has never been taken up on it.

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by E28 » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:43 pm

Re my post no 85 above.
This is an observation that with issues in the past re TT and its associated sites, i was under the impression that its future was uncertain. No updated information had been added on this thread for a reasonable time, 4 months, so i placed that comment for an update from those who do visit and contribute, who are many.
TT has been established for many years and is a very valuable resource, the distinct impression i get is that all those interested in tugs use it as their first port of call.
No, i do not belong to it and as such i can only see a very limited amount.
But please bear in mind that if it is grey, it invariably needs a tug to assist with many movements.
Hence the Aid in my Raid. Trade. Aid.
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Thats all folks. Sean. E28

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Bill Harvey » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:09 pm

alasdairmac wrote:Hi Bill. It's likely that BB will eventually surface as he has done so many times before but Clydebuilt's authors and contributors over the years should surely be looking to get an up-to-date copy from Bruce just in case. He had offered it in the past but as far as I know has never been taken up on it.

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Alisdair,

Getting an up to date copy of the database won't necessarily make a great deal of difference as it is based on a unique BB scripted programme. As far as I have been made aware, if you do not have the BB scripts then even if you have a DVD back up of the database, it won't run. I and others sincerely hope that that is not going to be proven the case.

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by alasdairmac » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:04 pm

Bill, I am delighted to be able to tell you that thank goodness you are wrong on that one! Clydebuilt is on a bog standard MS Access database which would very readily be usable by anyone with experience of that application, of whom there will be many. The script that gives the present user interface to it is a BB special but that can be easily rebuilt either using Access' own tools or by anyone with C+ or SQL skills, amongst others. All is not lost !

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Bill Harvey » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:43 pm

alasdairmac wrote:Bill, I am delighted to be able to tell you that thank goodness you are wrong on that one! Clydebuilt is on a bog standard MS Access database which would very readily be usable by anyone with experience of that application, of whom there will be many. The script that gives the present user interface to it is a BB special but that can be easily rebuilt either using Access' own tools or by anyone with C+ or SQL skills, amongst others. All is not lost !

That's a bit more heartening news, Alisdair. Thanks for passing it on.

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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by yorkieman » Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:56 pm

..... so the key point is, did anyone ever get a copy of the database out of Bruce?
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Re: Is it the end for Clydesite

Post by Alan Hughes » Thu Oct 20, 2011 10:17 am

TugTalk is up and running again today, not sure for how long though.

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