AQUITANIA 1914 - John Brown

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AQUITANIA 1914 - John Brown

Post by yorkieman » Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:32 pm

Something also for the naval bods here ....

A fine view of Armstrong Whitworth's shipyard on the Tyne in 1919-1920
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AQUITANIA
1914, 45647grt
John Brown, Clydebank (409) for Cunard Line

"November 1919 the Aquitania went into an extensive refit at Armstrong Whitworth & Co, the refit was done on June 1920, she was converted from coal to oil. Also Aquitania's bridge was entirely rebuilt on top of the old bridge at about half the size of the old one, this was done because the officers could not see properly from the original bridge."

Broken up at Faslane, arrived 21/2/1950

and moving past her, perhaps for trials
HMS Submarine M3
"Built by Armstrong Whitworth & Co, yard number 911, laid down as K20, launched as M3 10/9/1918 (renamed 1917), completed 1920. Minelayer 1927 (guns removed). Sold 2/1932 to Cashmore; arrived Newport 13/4/1932 for breaking."

.... and some interesting extra notes from Paul Hood

They were fitted with a 12 inch, 35 cal and a 3 inch disappearing as main armament plus 4 x 18 inch bow tubes.
Gunnery Notes are interesting.
12 inch Mk XI, as mounted in King Edward VII class. Reported that gun is loaded and laid to high angle elevation; then boat is dived to about 12-20 feet, leaving muzzle of 12 inch gun above water, and periscopes. There ia a bead sight, on gun-muzzle, so that the gun can be sighted by periscope and fired when running at shallow submersion. To re-load it is necassary to return to surface.
General Notes.
Begun under War Emergency Programme. Are said to be very handy boats, both in dive and general control. Under Washington Treaty no more 12in gunned boats may be built.
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Re: AQUITANIA 1914 - John Brown

Post by Deepol » Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:44 pm

Another couple of her during and departing after that refit. You can see her new bridge atop the old one.....
Subs there as well.
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Post by Deepol » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:24 am

The end at Faslane.
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Arriving in February 1950
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Aft funnel gone.
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The very end- the Ship Beautiful cut down. I'm told that is HMS RENOWN in the background waiting the same fate.
John Winters Collection.
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Post by Deepol » Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:28 am

The beginning.
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The organised chaos of early construction at Clydebank
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Taking shape
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Fine lines to see
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Post by Deepol » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:32 pm

There might be doubt about the photo of her cut down. Looking at it again the warship in the background looks like a King George V class and doing a bit of Googling to see which one it might be I see that they were not sold for breaking till about 1957-58. Don't know just how long AQUITANIA took to dismantle but can't see it being as long as 7-8 years.
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Post by Deepol » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:05 pm

Definitely her I am very reliably informed. HMS KING GEORGE V in background laid up although it was to be several more years before she was scrapped.
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Post by Deepol » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:32 am

On this day in 1950 she arrived at Faslane for scrapping. This Richard Weiss photo from the Clyde George collection kindly donated for the Database shows her at her final berth.
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Post by Deepol » Tue May 22, 2012 8:56 am

Hot off the inbox from the US- awfy nice colour shot of her.
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Post by Deepol » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:36 pm

Commemorated in later years by British Railways who named some of the English Electric Type 4s after Cunarders, Canadian Pacific and Elder Dempster liners using the Port of Liverpool as it was anticipated EE Type 4s would head Boat Trains to Liverpool Riverside. D215 carried the attractive style of nameplate adopted.
From all accounts diesel haulage was rarely done, a lot of the trains being steam. Certainly I never saw a diesel on a Riverside train....
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Post by Deepol » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:36 pm

Happy 2014 to all. Three further views of the Ship Beautiful.
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Post by Deepol » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:30 pm

Two artefacts salvaged from her at Faslane in 1950 courtesy of the Iain Quinn Collection. Compass adjustments on her last voyage from Southampton to the Clyde for breaking in February of that year and her Channel Course Book from 1939.
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Post by Deepol » Wed May 21, 2014 1:09 pm

John Winters sent me this photo of her for inclusion in a forthcoming presentation I am giving on her to mark her centenary.
We both assumed it was taken during the Great War as she does not seem to have had dazzle camouflage during the second conflict.
I am very grateful to Clyde George for the following background to the photo:

"This is a famous picture of the ship, it's from an original Keystone Stereo Viewer card taken on 28 February, 1919. The picture was taken for Keystone while the ship was in repatriation service, and immediately after the ship had suffered a major collision with the freighter Lord Dufferin in the Ambrose Channel. You can even see the scraping of her bow paint that resulted from the collision. The Lord Dufferin had her stern completely sliced off, and she actually sank, taking a full bulk load of sugar with her to the bottom of the Channel. The Cunard Line ended up being sued by the owners of the freighter. Aquitania was carrying African American troops onboard at the time, but of course this was during the time of segregation, and the NYT actually noted that the black troops onboard were "well behaved" during the incident. It really was a different time back then. Aquitania then proceeded to Hoboken, NJ to discharge the more than 6,000 men she had onboard."
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