Turner, Brightman & Co Ltd.

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Bill Harvey
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Turner, Brightman & Co Ltd.

Post by Bill Harvey » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:43 pm

Can anyone provide me with info on this company as it features as an aside to something else that I have been working on for some time.

I do know that all their owned vessels started with the letter ' Z ' and were apart from a few exceptions products of Northeast shipyards. Dobson, Thompson, Bartram to name a few.

I am slowly compiling their fleet details

I know of 2 subsidiary companies 'Z' Steamship Company and the Zinal Steamship Company . Perhaps there were more.

Zinal is the link to what I have been doing on Wm Cory & Son Ltd. and was Incorporated on 16.12.1911 - Company Reg. No.119186 (Turner, Brightman & Company Ltd, London owner / managers)

1946 J. Burness & Sons Ltd. took control

1956
Restyled as South Coast Shipping Company Ltd., (Burness Shipping Company Ltd managers)

1956
Acquired as a subsidiary by Wm. Cory & Son Ltd., London retaining name.
One source states as a partnership between Cory/Burness

25.9.2002: Rebranded as RMC MARINE LTD
22.7.2005: Rebranded as CEMEX UK MARINE LTD


To quote the TESCO add " every little helps "

Bill
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Re: Turner, Brightman & Co Ltd.

Post by Magoonigal » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:54 am

Very brief details of the 'Z' Steam Ship Co in Norman Middlemiss's 'Travels of the Tramps' Volume II.

Three Page History and Single Page Fleetlist.

He lists Two ZINAL's, one lost in the first war and the other in the second.
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Re: Turner, Brightman & Co Ltd.

Post by Bill Harvey » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:53 am

From numerous other enquiries it appears that there is little information available on the company.

Bill

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Re: Turner, Brightman & Co Ltd.

Post by Bill Harvey » Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:40 am

Slight progress made.

It appears through finding another 4 earlier sailing vessels, and some owner details that the partnership was in existence as far back as 1847 and that Turner and Brightman families were linked in the early years with Sunderland and potentially related in some way.

The trawl continues. The fleet meanwhile is well near completion and hopefully will appear in the not too distant future.

Bill

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Re: Turner, Brightman & Co Ltd.

Post by davidships » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:35 pm

Seems to have traded also as "Z Line"

Key Zinal company archives covering 1912-1956 are apparently still retained by RMC/Cemex
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/ ... ?ID=B12488

Other subsidiaries include:

Zenal Steamship Co Ltd ?
Zermatt Steamship Co Ltd. (Co No 92385; wound up 1919)

Requisition of their refigerated ship in 1915:
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/ ... 0/page.pdf
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/ ... 1/page.pdf
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Re: Turner, Brightman & Co Ltd.

Post by Bill Harvey » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:22 pm

Thanks David.

I know about the other mentioned companies and have the DVD of documents held by Companies House for Zinal SS Co Ltd.

I think the Zenal ? is a typo as there was not a vessel with that name.

Z SS Co Ltd I have the Company No but no records held by Companies House.

Bill

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Re: Turner, Brightman & Co Ltd.

Post by imsij » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:48 am

There is an account in the Evening News, 25.3. 1892, of a court hearing about an accident involving the Zeus. Check Welsh Newspapers Online - it's free. http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/home

My interest lies in a distant relative, Ernest Arthur Arnold (1869-1936), who was apparently involved in and possibly responsible for the accident that was reported. You could see his Mate's certificate and Captain's register in the National Archives.

He seems to have been employed by the Z line from the 1880s to the 1920s, and was torpedoed twice during WW1, while in command of Zermatt and then Zeta.

Hope this is useful.

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