Abdul Moneim 1902

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Woody
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Abdul Moneim 1902

Post by Woody » Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:59 am

There is an Egyptian Coastguard Vessel listed in Janes as built by Clydebank in 1902, 610t
I do not know if this was her original name or if it is correctly spelt
I can find no details of her in the database
Does anyone have any ideas or information?

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Re: Abdul Moneim 1902

Post by Robert » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:14 pm

Yes John,
She was the SHEELAH and there is a further interest for you in that she was at some time owned by Admiral of the Fleet, Earl Beatty.

Yacht. 679tm. Launched 22 May 1902. ON.115688.
I don't have dates but W. A. Donaldson was her first owner, then, without necessarily this order,
James Ross.
Admiral of the Fleet, Earl Beatty.
Miss B. Can.
Mrs F. A. Stirling.
Jugoslaver Sik.
Possibly the Egyptian Navy as the customs cruiser, ABDUL MONEIM 598t - 1000hp.
Conway has Abdul Monaym 610t (page 415).
1930s stricken.
I'm sure you'll be able to tidy this up.

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Re: Abdul Moneim 1902

Post by Woody » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:34 pm

Hi
Many thanks for the info and you've opened me a can of worms
There were two Sheelahs built on the Clyde for W. A. Donaldson
I believe the first (1898) became the Ariane and was requisitioned during WWI
The second appears to be Beattys yacht which his wife gave to the Admiralty for use as a Hospital ship during WWI and was still being used by Beatty in 1928
I will have to look at entries for both in the Warships section

After searching the net I find that Beatty's Sheelah looks nothing like the ABDUL MONEIM so perhaps you could check your sources again

I find yachts very difficult to follow as they keep changing names with new owners and new wives

Cheers John

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Re: Abdul Moneim 1902

Post by Woody » Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:03 pm

Found her under ABD EL MONAYM

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Re: Abdul Moneim 1902

Post by Robert » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:16 am

You've more than tidied up and I offer my apologies. I figured that SHEELAH was the only possible vessel to have been built at Clydebank in 1902.
Now that the builder of ABD EL MONAYM was The Clyde Shipbuilding & Engineering Co of Port Glasgow it makes my suggestion a non starter.

In addition, your tip that Beatty still had the 1902 SHEELAH in 1928 made me have another look and of course James Ross was of Montreal and Miss Can turned out to be Miss Cant!

I found two mentions of a possible re-naming of SHEELAH to TIHA.
They are,
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 03&start=0 http://www.countyhistorian.com/cecilweb ... erKennedy1

Thanks

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Re: Abdul Moneim 1902

Post by Woody » Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:57 am

Thanks again for your help

Have put someting together on Beatty's Sheelagh on: viewtopic.php?f=47&t=22615

Cheers
Woody

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Re: Abdul Moneim 1902

Post by Gordonjdm » Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:16 am

My great aunt was a postmistress in South Queensferry during WW1. This photograph of Hospital Ship Sheelah (No.11) is in one of her albums. There are also photographs of a Captain W Grint on board the ship.
sheelah.jpg

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Re: Abdul Moneim 1902

Post by Woody » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:31 am

Thanks for the image Gordon
Is it possible for you to get a larger image and post it as reply to the posting on Sheelah (reference given)?
Seasons greetings
Woody

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