SAGAMORE - 1957

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SAGAMORE - 1957

Post by yorkieman » Sat Mar 02, 2013 12:02 pm

Just mentioned on another site that SAGAMORE was launched as EDENMORE, then changed and this name of course given to her sister, the next y.n. from Blythswood.
No mention of this in the database, is it correct by local records?
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Re: SAGAMORE - 1957

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:11 pm

Incorrect as far as I'm concerned, Wise One :

SAGAMORE : Yard No. 121 : O.N. 187699
Launched at 15:00 hours from Blythswood's Berth No. 3 taking 43 seconds to launch and named SAGAMORE

EDEMORE : Yard No. 122 : O.N. 187762
Launched at 14:15 hours from Blythswood's Berth No. 1 taking 43 seconds to launch and named EDENMORE

When putting together then Blythswood story I had access to all archived documentation including Launching Book, and found no mention anywhere of this name interchange. Miramar also records nothing to indicate this. Although these ore carriers carried several other names after their disposal by Furness Withy, I do not believe the version seen on some other site as described.

If I'm wrong, I would like further details in order to correct my records. ;)
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Re: SAGAMORE - 1957

Post by yorkieman » Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:00 pm

Thanks Angus, I am sure it will be an error!
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Re: SAGAMORE - 1957

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:05 am

You're only saying that to see if I'll renew your 'Freeman' status for another year ... I've got your measure, m'lad ... :lol:
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Re: SAGAMORE - 1957

Post by yorkieman » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:41 am

Oh, I thought it was a lifetime award ..... must be careful ... don't want to be defrocked or is it dekilted.
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Re: SAGAMORE - 1957

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:23 am

Yes, you are right, it WAS a lifetime award, but I like to cheat a wee bit now and again, know what I mean? It goes back to the days of cattle-raiding down in the borders ..... so I claim mitigation on the grounds of genetic inheritance ....
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Re: SAGAMORE - 1957

Post by yorkieman » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:43 pm

Oh I understand, 'lifetime' means 'your life up to this time', very subtle.

p.s. are you sure they were cattle and not horses, easy to confuse the two especially in a nice burger.
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Re: SAGAMORE - 1957

Post by Angus Mac Kinnon » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:08 pm

'scuse me .... I prefer to be referred to as an amicable, agreeable and personable personage .... not a 'nice burgher' ....... :D
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Re: SAGAMORE - 1957

Post by Voyager » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:14 pm

I sailed in the Sagamore for a couple of happy years, 1963 to 1965, but never heard that she was originally to have been Edenmore! Not much point in a name change anyway - Sagamore/Edenmore both more or less identical. The only difference that I could ever find was that Sagamore had whistle on starboard side of that big tall bridge mast, whilst Edenmore had it on port side - how about that for observation? :lol:
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Re: SAGAMORE - 1957

Post by yorkieman » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:22 pm

Must add a photo after all this discussion ... spot the whistle competition :)
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Re: SAGAMORE - 1957

Post by Voyager » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:24 pm

Shipping a "green one", Sagamore, 1964.
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